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		<title>Comment on The New Gmail Spam Filter by Chris Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arron - Have you ever seen Quigley Down Under, the movie? Remember the last line, This ain&#039;t Dodge City and you ain&#039;t Bill Hickok?

Well, Clint below is from Australia. He and a few others were part of another marketers group of affiliates. The OTHER MARKETER and I got in a little tiff about who was the man when it came to Google. For weeks his little band kept poking at me that new GFC and Reader friends were not showing up in Google contacts as I said they would going back to August 2008.

So my Quigley reference to the Aussie below is meant in the same way now. BTW the OTHER marketer&#039;s info product platform failed and now me, Clint and Mark Highton Ridley are buddies again. But I got sick of being poked at... and poked back, hence the remark you read above.

To answer your question, this was over a year ago, last May. I have always contended that when Google social apps seem to break, it is because Google is updating the social networking apps or wiring new ones in. In this case it was the release of Google Wave to dev testers just weeks later.

Now Google once again works just as I described it does when I broke all this news over 2 years ago.

That is what most don&#039;t seem to get when it comes to Google. They think it is an app built on an address book. When in fact, when you add new friends on Google, they are ADDED to your address book. Google builds your address book for you, just like adding friends on Facebook adds friends to your friend list. So yes, Google, all of Google is one big social network. Like 60 different sites or so. And it is all based and stored in Google / Gmail contacts.

In fact just after this I wrote a blog post about why, for a time Google did not add new friends on GFC to Gmail contacts, now Google Contacts.

http://www.googlingsocial.com/?p=396

So to paraphrase, I was just being the outspoken, loud mouth, jackass that I am sometimes. But then, sooner or later everyone gets tired of being poked with a stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arron &#8211; Have you ever seen Quigley Down Under, the movie? Remember the last line, This ain&#8217;t Dodge City and you ain&#8217;t Bill Hickok?</p>
<p>Well, Clint below is from Australia. He and a few others were part of another marketers group of affiliates. The OTHER MARKETER and I got in a little tiff about who was the man when it came to Google. For weeks his little band kept poking at me that new GFC and Reader friends were not showing up in Google contacts as I said they would going back to August 2008.</p>
<p>So my Quigley reference to the Aussie below is meant in the same way now. BTW the OTHER marketer&#8217;s info product platform failed and now me, Clint and Mark Highton Ridley are buddies again. But I got sick of being poked at&#8230; and poked back, hence the remark you read above.</p>
<p>To answer your question, this was over a year ago, last May. I have always contended that when Google social apps seem to break, it is because Google is updating the social networking apps or wiring new ones in. In this case it was the release of Google Wave to dev testers just weeks later.</p>
<p>Now Google once again works just as I described it does when I broke all this news over 2 years ago.</p>
<p>That is what most don&#8217;t seem to get when it comes to Google. They think it is an app built on an address book. When in fact, when you add new friends on Google, they are ADDED to your address book. Google builds your address book for you, just like adding friends on Facebook adds friends to your friend list. So yes, Google, all of Google is one big social network. Like 60 different sites or so. And it is all based and stored in Google / Gmail contacts.</p>
<p>In fact just after this I wrote a blog post about why, for a time Google did not add new friends on GFC to Gmail contacts, now Google Contacts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.googlingsocial.com/?p=396" rel="nofollow">http://www.googlingsocial.com/?p=396</a></p>
<p>So to paraphrase, I was just being the outspoken, loud mouth, jackass that I am sometimes. But then, sooner or later everyone gets tired of being poked with a stick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New Gmail Spam Filter by Aaron Marsell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Marsell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

   Thank You For the post. Would you please elaborate on your last comment.

  I am not sure what you are trying to say. 
   &quot; This ain’t Digg and Google    ain’t Dodge City, just because you know how to use Facebook don’t mean you know anything about Google. &quot;

Are you referring to Google as a social platform? Or are you trying to tell Mark that the GFC does not work on a reciprocating friends platform because his friends aren&#039;t showing up in his GFC? Or something else? Would please elaborate.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>   Thank You For the post. Would you please elaborate on your last comment.</p>
<p>  I am not sure what you are trying to say.<br />
   &#8221; This ain’t Digg and Google    ain’t Dodge City, just because you know how to use Facebook don’t mean you know anything about Google. &#8221;</p>
<p>Are you referring to Google as a social platform? Or are you trying to tell Mark that the GFC does not work on a reciprocating friends platform because his friends aren&#8217;t showing up in his GFC? Or something else? Would please elaborate.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New Gmail Spam Filter by The New Gmail Spam Filter – Avoid Spam Filters &#124; Google Friend Connect Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The New Gmail Spam Filter – Avoid Spam Filters &#124; Google Friend Connect Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on How To Screw Up Your Email Delivery by cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Chris, You said it.  We are trying to help them get on the right track...how ya been?

Cory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Chris, You said it.  We are trying to help them get on the right track&#8230;how ya been?</p>
<p>Cory</p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Screw Up Your Email Delivery by Joe Cheray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Cheray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris I think I am guilty of all of these 5 deadly mistakes thank you for posting this and giving the reasons for each one. 

Once again you provide good clear concise information that is straightforward and to the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris I think I am guilty of all of these 5 deadly mistakes thank you for posting this and giving the reasons for each one. </p>
<p>Once again you provide good clear concise information that is straightforward and to the point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Screw Up Your Email Delivery by Chris Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I highly recommend Club E for your speaking engagements here in the Phoenix area. If you are from out of town this is a great place for small meetings and drop in office space.

I speak here myself and use Club E for my MeetUps too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I highly recommend Club E for your speaking engagements here in the Phoenix area. If you are from out of town this is a great place for small meetings and drop in office space.</p>
<p>I speak here myself and use Club E for my MeetUps too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conficker Worm Results In Spam Filters Cranked To All Time High by Ange Recchia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ange Recchia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your email woes Chris. Lucky for you, you do have some big affiliates to JV with. I&#039;m sure it will pass and the worm will turn like you say. Keep strong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your email woes Chris. Lucky for you, you do have some big affiliates to JV with. I&#8217;m sure it will pass and the worm will turn like you say. Keep strong!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conficker Worm Results In Spam Filters Cranked To All Time High by Valeriu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valeriu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new pain in the ass, right? Well, I think I get all your messages. I will also try to see if Aweber ORt is low...

Valeriu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new pain in the ass, right? Well, I think I get all your messages. I will also try to see if Aweber ORt is low&#8230;</p>
<p>Valeriu</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New Gmail Spam Filter by Chris Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clint, obviously the answer man you are looking for is someone who has the answer you want to hear. I have told everyone ten times over, your friends are obviously NOT using Gmail.

@Clint, @Mark, I just checked my own Gmail contacts, Clint you are in my friends list, so I HAVE to be in yours, Mark, no where to be seen.

Google is swapping tons of code around, until about 2 months ago, when G launched Latitide, no one was getting friends in Gmail for like a month straight. Now it works flawlessly.

It still depends on the other end, both must be using Gmail. So, go use Gmail.

Lastly, GFC ain&#039;t Digg, you can&#039;t just make a ton of friends and then shout them to death with &quot;Digg this&quot; spam and get Google rankings and it ain&#039;t never going to happen.

Lastly where are you adding friends, just adding every person in one of my widgets to get my subscribers? 

That don&#039;t work either, just look at the history on Googling Social, you can see who is just sitting there trying to plunder my friends list but it don&#039;t work because they do not understand GFC like I do.

This ain&#039;t Digg and Google ain&#039;t Dodge City, just because you know how to use Facebook don&#039;t mean you know anything about Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clint, obviously the answer man you are looking for is someone who has the answer you want to hear. I have told everyone ten times over, your friends are obviously NOT using Gmail.</p>
<p>@Clint, @Mark, I just checked my own Gmail contacts, Clint you are in my friends list, so I HAVE to be in yours, Mark, no where to be seen.</p>
<p>Google is swapping tons of code around, until about 2 months ago, when G launched Latitide, no one was getting friends in Gmail for like a month straight. Now it works flawlessly.</p>
<p>It still depends on the other end, both must be using Gmail. So, go use Gmail.</p>
<p>Lastly, GFC ain&#8217;t Digg, you can&#8217;t just make a ton of friends and then shout them to death with &#8220;Digg this&#8221; spam and get Google rankings and it ain&#8217;t never going to happen.</p>
<p>Lastly where are you adding friends, just adding every person in one of my widgets to get my subscribers? </p>
<p>That don&#8217;t work either, just look at the history on Googling Social, you can see who is just sitting there trying to plunder my friends list but it don&#8217;t work because they do not understand GFC like I do.</p>
<p>This ain&#8217;t Digg and Google ain&#8217;t Dodge City, just because you know how to use Facebook don&#8217;t mean you know anything about Google.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New Gmail Spam Filter by Chris Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I think you already answered your own question.

The social features are in Gmail, not in Outlook. Second does Outlook access Gmail contacts and update them to you Outlook contacts list.

If not, then if you go to your Gmail account, then you will probably see a fair number of email addresses you don&#039;t really recognize.

Third, why the heck would you use Outlook, when Gmail is faster to use. Offline access? Who cares, I never get an email that I do not need the internet to deal with.

I am until today, a heavy Outlook user, now I am moving totally to Gmail, online.

I am moving out of Windows, I just added an Ubuntu partition to my Windows machine and am learning how and how much I can use Ubuntu immediately and easily.

I am only tied to Windows thru Camtasia studio that I use to produce my YouTube videos.

Unless you have many different emails and you need them all in one place, I would not use Outlook.

What I do is use my chris at keywebdata email address strictly businesss communications.

I use Gmail strictly for all social contacts, it divides the two and my social media assistant can do a lot of work there for me, freeing me up to do things like this.

@Clint, you have 100 friends sharing in Google Reader? That is the end goal here, lots of friends sharing your blog posts and shared items. Why be unhappy or question this?

The reason you are not getting friend email addresses is they are not using Gmail themselves. I have said this many times, it is a two way conversation, and Google is never going to send Friend requests to Gmail like Facebook does, it is a waste of time to deal with that crap.

They don&#039;t want us friending every person we can in every GFC widget to get friends. We tried it, that don&#039;t work.

What you want is real friends, (G wants this too) and we want them in Gchat, then we have a real connection and we can get real time responses.

I can produce more action that makes me money from my Gchat contacts than I can from my 6,0000 social friends.

Because like me, my social friends are very powerful, I target highly influential users. In chat you know me, you don&#039;t get that from Outlook. Mostly, Outlook just brings me spam. LOL

Gmail is now so slick and fast there is no reason not to use it. I used to want to brand KeyWebData.com, now I brand Chris Lang and I am always number one for a search. Real people being real people, that is what Google wants, why not give it to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I think you already answered your own question.</p>
<p>The social features are in Gmail, not in Outlook. Second does Outlook access Gmail contacts and update them to you Outlook contacts list.</p>
<p>If not, then if you go to your Gmail account, then you will probably see a fair number of email addresses you don&#8217;t really recognize.</p>
<p>Third, why the heck would you use Outlook, when Gmail is faster to use. Offline access? Who cares, I never get an email that I do not need the internet to deal with.</p>
<p>I am until today, a heavy Outlook user, now I am moving totally to Gmail, online.</p>
<p>I am moving out of Windows, I just added an Ubuntu partition to my Windows machine and am learning how and how much I can use Ubuntu immediately and easily.</p>
<p>I am only tied to Windows thru Camtasia studio that I use to produce my YouTube videos.</p>
<p>Unless you have many different emails and you need them all in one place, I would not use Outlook.</p>
<p>What I do is use my chris at keywebdata email address strictly businesss communications.</p>
<p>I use Gmail strictly for all social contacts, it divides the two and my social media assistant can do a lot of work there for me, freeing me up to do things like this.</p>
<p>@Clint, you have 100 friends sharing in Google Reader? That is the end goal here, lots of friends sharing your blog posts and shared items. Why be unhappy or question this?</p>
<p>The reason you are not getting friend email addresses is they are not using Gmail themselves. I have said this many times, it is a two way conversation, and Google is never going to send Friend requests to Gmail like Facebook does, it is a waste of time to deal with that crap.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want us friending every person we can in every GFC widget to get friends. We tried it, that don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>What you want is real friends, (G wants this too) and we want them in Gchat, then we have a real connection and we can get real time responses.</p>
<p>I can produce more action that makes me money from my Gchat contacts than I can from my 6,0000 social friends.</p>
<p>Because like me, my social friends are very powerful, I target highly influential users. In chat you know me, you don&#8217;t get that from Outlook. Mostly, Outlook just brings me spam. LOL</p>
<p>Gmail is now so slick and fast there is no reason not to use it. I used to want to brand KeyWebData.com, now I brand Chris Lang and I am always number one for a search. Real people being real people, that is what Google wants, why not give it to them?</p>
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